Talk:Russian Army

Keep the page as it is, don't mention other RA's. They can make their own pages. If we were to necessitate every group's page mention every former HR's knock-off version, than we would have probably hundreds listed for every superclan. Allow it to merely mention basic history, each leader, the times they led, the current bases, and yes, as it is part of our history, Nerfmodder's death. I don't want to erase him from RA, I never tried. I just don't see the reasoning behind this "I am more of his friend than you, you killed him" nonsense.

So, RA refers to Russian Army, the one created by Nerfmodder March 12th of 2012. It has had the following 5 leaders;

Nerfmodder (Founder) March 12th 2012-June 18th 2012 FSSBuilder June 18th 2012-July 31st 2012 Nerfmodder July 31st 2012-December 9th 2012 Penguinhardy December 9th 2012 -February 14th 2013 Nerfmodder February 14th 2013-February 9th 2014. Treys1, 6th President of RA, February 9th 2014-Present

Nerfmodder gave RA to myself on February 9th, asked for it back not 2 weeks later, to which I refused. I noted that he told me not to give it back, and quoted him to himself. We still talked somewhat, and yes I am sure he wasn't happy with my decision. I know he wasn't. He moved on, created his own groups, those should be listed in his page, Nerfmodder, not RA's. Nerfmodder died as a result of self inflicted actions, June of 2015. RA later reconciled with their on/off again enemy, Kalash, who Nerfmodder led. We currently are improving relations still with his last group.

RA's current base is White Forest, made by a Marshal in our group, Metrotech. We can list former bases, which we have had dozens and dozens, few notable ones; Moscow, St. Petersburg, Dagestan, Russian Army HQ (That was the original one, just a straight walkway essentially), Crimea, Sokolov, Metro, White Forest.

RA has 4 divisions;

NKVD, The Oldest, and only one not created by Nerfmodder. (It was created by Treys1) It handles intelligence, counter-intelligence, and law. Baseless claims about hacking and nonsense towards our allies, is heresay, and I think we just shouldn't mention it.

FSB, primary defensive unit of RA.

Spetsnaz, formerly the group Spetsnaz, was gutted in 2013 to be turned into a group division for RA. It is the primary offensive division.

RUS, primary economic division of RA, handles building and scripting for us.

RA's primary legal code is NKVD Law, linked here https://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=193304574, which is always expanding. (Unrelated, we like to call it the best legal code in ROBLOX, completely non-factual, it's subjective, but I thought I'd toot our own horn xD)

RA's government is semi-democratic, and oligarchic, based on a Military Congress of Colonels+, who get scattered votes based on their ranks. Any person in ROBLOX can propose something for us to vote on in Congress.

Our Prime Ministers are currently Starbuckdog, and Silentshadow. One Prime Minister is appointed by the President himself, the other is elected by a group-wide vote of any eligible member. (Efreitor+) Former Prime Ministers include Treys1, Penguinhardy, Tavo, Chaos4675, Coltjm6, FSSBuilder, Spike, and quite a few others usually for short periods of time. The Prime Minister's job is to assist the President in running RA.

RA has had several wars with groups, notably being the USM-RA wars, which officially came to a close when USM and RA set aside their differences and allied under USM's new leader T0PN0TCH, and RA's new leader, Treys1. Other notable wars include USSF-RA, which resulted in a breaking of an alliance between the two groups.

RA's membership soared high, reaching 5000 by Summer of 2012, around 15000 by the following year, and at the time of Treys1 assuming Presidency, 27000. RA membership has been relatively stable since then, currently as I type this, at 26555, according to my screen.

RA is the largest Russian-based clan on ROBLOX. RA is relatively neutral in most RO-WARS, as we try to avoid too much foreign entanglement. Currently, our allies include RIC, USM, MSU, TD, and NATO, however.

These are just some things I would love to see on an edit. Again, no mentioning other groups, or what HR's do 6 months after they leave, That is for their pages, and their groups, not RA's. We shouldn't have to fight to be the "true ra", when we are literally the one that they're all based on. You can argue we are different than under Nerf, but that doesn't mean we aren't the same group in fact. (Argue in spirit, but that can never be proven, spirit isn't based on any reality)

Treys64 (talk) 19:38, July 19, 2016 (UTC)