User talk:HaiFire3344

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Just to say this, there thumbnails is somewhat roblox-related, but they actually have them in there thumbnails. And if you even take a moment to check there last video, you will clearly see them. I will wait on a reply to see your response on this. Tman1319 (talk)
 * I do not see Rika's pronouns written in their thumbnails. Can you give a timestamp link or a screenshot for the place where Rika's pronouns are written in their last video (I don't have time to go through the whole thing)? HaiFire3344 (talk) 20:39, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
 * My bad, there is no official pronouns from the user in question, (also if you don't have time to go through a 9 minute video, then your time schedule might need some work on). 20:49, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Lol no worries. HaiFire3344 (talk) 20:50, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

About your recent blog posts
Hi, as it has been noted multiple times on the deletion reasons for the blog posts you've been making, please stop posting "opinions" or "hot takes" on how we need to allow possibly defamatory content because it could be true or because people are interested in it. This is an encyclopaedia, an informative website - and rumors & allegations aren't objective information.

There is no basis to adding something to an article just because someone might be interested in that information. This is not a site to fuel some spicy drama for people to look into. If adding baseless claims to articles was allowed because "it could be true, but it could also not be", it would just be abused to slander users most of the time, which falls under defamation and libel - illegal in many countries. Fandom does not allow baseless claims to be added to articles because it is against the law and can cause immense damage if left available randomly. If something is legitimate enough to document, it will have legal documentation or undisputable proof that can be referenced. If you can't get this information, then it can't be documented on an objectivity-based website. If we were expecting to present hearsay on the basis that readers need to draw their own conclusions based on what they think the truth is, that indicates that the article is biased and therefore no longer objective. Objectivity is a major part of making sure things are accurate, and is also part of our policies. This isn't up for debate.

Outside of the wiki context, you can still know the accusations towards someone happened, and they might be true or not, but that you probably shouldn't let such things influence your opinions unless they can provide real evidence that isn't just Discord chat screenshots, or even worse, just "I think they did this". All the things you listed in your original blog post, if you don't know where the proof is, you probably shouldn't be listing it off like it's fact, much less holding it as how you view them. Youtubers aren't sources and you shouldn't be basing your entire opinion on someone due to what some random person said about them offhandedly without any evidence. Remember there are people that make false accusations for drama and clout too; not everyone is in good faith. Rumors of serious accusations are not a toy, not something to play around with; not something you simply believe because "they could be true".

We have been particularly asked by Fandom to comply with these rules for the instances that we have to document these sorts of things, similar to how other wikis like Wikitubia are asked to do the same. In any case, if it's something we stepped in to remove and/or prevent addition of for the time being, it was likely as it was not verified with the level of evidence Fandom requires or was simply some random rumor or accusation. This is their platform, wikis are compliant with their rules, we will follow and enforce them as well since we are required to. is not a rumor farm, it is an encyclopaedia. Regardless, if you still have any further grievances with this topic, please stop bringing it up on this wiki because there's nothing we can or will do about it and Fandom won't see it here; take it to a support ticket with Fandom. Thanks. ~ Karasu || user // contact // CC wall ~✨ 01:34, 10 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your message! At this point I'm just making general personal comments reflecting my own curiosity and interests, but I don't understand how Community:MisterObvious gets a pass on this. I can only imagine it's because there was audio and video evidence (which, as I believe is worth noting, can also be created by anyone, though I understand it's more difficult to fake, especially when it's known what somebody sounds like), while other alleged cases only had text (and maybe photos) and not audio/video. In a non-wiki context (law stuff aside), I do believe that we should try to hear victims out when they share their alleged experiences and trauma; I personally think that in many cases, even Discord screenshots can be worth noting. However, I understand why this wiki is generally unable to document these alleged cases. I will mention this: I used to be friends (or at least acquaintances) with the first two people I listed in my first blog post. Both people made videos about games I made on Roblox. I can't really say much more (nothing happened to me), but I stopped being friends with them on my own accord. I realize I have no proof that I knew those people; I'm only saying this as a note on my inclusion of them on the list, and not to prove anything. Feel free to remove this. HaiFire3344 (talk) 02:40, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Outside of the wiki, I can understand with the intent to empathize with victims, but it's still good to hold objectivity over matters. It's not as black and white as social media extremists act like it is; you can still empathize with the victim without jumping against the accused, you can still believe there needs to be more concrete proof to believe they did and it doesn't at all mean that you support what they are accused of. Also to clarify, the MisterObvious situation had verified evidence + Roblox terminated the account (not just one or the other like many of the debated cases are).

We're just asking you to not go and make personal comments in the manner you were, because it isn't suitable to make "hot takes" about things that could be false but could also completely screw over someone's livelihood; it's not fun or quirky, it's serious stuff. So we have to treat it seriously, and Fandom also takes it very seriously. Topics like CSA we are required to be really tough on because they are especially harmful if it's just some accusation, even if it got disproved. Since it's an objective source, we can't just add rumors. Additionally, it isn't really appropriate to bring it up around here as this is a Fandom level topic as previously said, not the. There's nothing that can be done here, so we don't want people seeing the blog posts and causing issues about us when we can't do anything. ~ Karasu || user // contact // CC wall ~✨ 03:13, 10 September 2021 (UTC)