Board Thread:Wiki discussion/@comment-4196050-20180101233723

We hope everyone had a happy and safe holidays and new year! As we look at our wiki's goals for 2018, we want to keep you updated with some changes we'll be implementing. We also want to give some general reminders about more frequently-seen user issues..

Notability Policy Rewrite
The notability policy criteria have been at 750,000 for the past four years. Mark Otaris's blog post described how more places meet notability criteria as more people play Roblox. As a wiki, we want to showcase high-quality pages. That is difficult to do when we could have thousands of notable places that need to be maintained. We are keeping the other qualifications,  like someone being a Roblox employee or being featured in a Roblox Blog post.

New Notability Criteria
Our main goal on the Roblox Wikia is to provide readers with a snapshot of the most notable things on Roblox. Roblox has recently released toy series that include real-life Robloxians. We've noticed that many of these Robloxians do not meet the current notability policies. If they are a toy, then they must be notable enough for Roblox to make a toy about them. As a part of the revised notability policies, we want to include Robloxians, groups, and places who are featured as a Roblox toy.

We want to discourage botted players, places, and groups being featured on our wiki. If it is learned that an asset was botted in order to meet notability criteria, the page may be moved to the userspace or deleted.

Proposed Changes to Place and Group Member Minimums
More places are meeting the current 750,000 place visit requirement. We want to showcase high-quality players, places, and groups (and not bait-and-switch places and botted groups). We understand that these changes may upset many editors. That is why we want to get your feedback. We want to see what the community thinks is an appropriate amount to adjust to. Please remember that posting "no" without feedback does not help us; we want to know why you agree or disagree. We're not going to be removing the notability policies, so please do not suggest that. ;)
 * Places - 1,000,000 visits, featured in a full-length article on the Roblox Blog, has been used in an official Roblox event, featured as a part of a Roblox toy
 * Players - 1,000,000 visits, featured in a full-length article on the Roblox Blog, is a Roblox administrator whom a reasonable amount of information is known, is featured as a Roblox toy
 * Groups - 20,000 members, featured in a full-length article on the Roblox Blog, is featured as a Roblox toy

Like when we first raised the notability criteria, pages that already meet the criteria will be grandfathered into the new criteria. What should the place visit criteria be at for notable players and places? 750,000 place visits (no change) - Please comment to explain why 900,000 place visits 1,000,000 place visits 2,000,000 place visits 3,000,000 place visits Other -Please comment

What should the group member criteria be at for notable groups? 15,000 members (no change) - Please comment to explain why 20,000 members 25,000 members 30,000 members Other -Please comment

Commentary Policies
There's been an increase in comments that do not promote discussion of the article or topic. We've discussed these concerns in Thread:176032 a few months ago. It's difficult to fairly moderate when we have different ideas on what is an appropriate comment. We plan on temporarily disabling comments. During this time, we will be disabling comments on certain pages that we frequently have commentary issues (Anthro, Online Dating, etc.). Once we re-enable comments, we plan on having additional commentary policies to prevent things from getting out-of-hand again.

We plan on using similar rules like our forum policies. We will make a few minor adjustments to account for some things we tend to see more frequently in comments. If you have any ideas to add to these policies, please let us know!
 * Comments should promote discussion about the article or the article's topic. Posting stuff like "OMG! I got banned!", "FIRST!", "ODers suck!", or "I edited the page" do not promote discussion and should not be posted as comments.
 * Comments should not contain any images unless used to troubleshoot page issues.
 * Comments should not personally attack any user, including the person the article is about.
 * Comments may be disabled on certain pages that are prone to having comments that violate these policies.

Mini Modding and Message Wall Warnings
We've been seeing more mini-modding recently. Mini-modding is when a normal editor pushes the wiki rules onto other editors. Such examples include posting "warnings" on other editors' message walls, adding notices to pages telling editors that they must do something, or threatening other users to behave. While we understand that you do this with the intentions of helping the wiki, it causes more hassle for the administrators. Mini-modding creates drama between the mini-modder and the person being mini-modded. It then requires us to deescalate the situation. If a person is "warning" another editor for something that isn't against the policies, that editor may be discouraged from editing the wiki. If you feel like someone is breaking a wiki policy, it's best to tell us admins. The best way to reach us is through our message wall;  in urgent situations many of us are on the Roblox Wikia discord.

Necroposting/Necrobumping
This is a general reminder that necroposting/necrobumping on a thread is discouraged. For those who don't know, Necrobumping is the act of commenting on a really old post or a post that has been resolved. If you found something to be useful in an old forum post, instead of posting a comment like "thank you!", giving kudos to the person is a better option.

Check before you post! If it already was replied to by an admin and resolved and/or the post date is old, don't post or respond! Your comment may be deleted, the thread closed, and additional moderation actions taken!

Holiday Skin Changes
Like what we did with our background for the holidays, we want to start making similar skins for other holidays. We would like to have feedback on the types of holidays you would want to have backgrounds for.

Thank you for reading through this word-wall. We gladly appreciate your input on these changes. 